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January 18, 2011

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Robert There is an account of the event at Hydesville quoted from "Mysterious Noises" by EE Lewis. This is available in Psypioneer Vol 1 No 12 at: http://woodlandway.org/PDF/Leslie_Price_PP12.pdf
Roy

I have Capron's book but the Report by E.E. Lewis written about a fortnight (April 1848) after the rappings took place (March 1848) is the most reliable of all the reports that have since emerged.

I'd only ever seen Capron's version of the Lewis original, so glad to see a Lewis reprint is available. Thanks.

Immature response:

My house has been rapping for weeks but I think I've found the cause - my brother's taste in music.

Better response:

I am struck by the level of conviction in the witnesses. Not because I don't believe that people can't fall for things hook, line and sinker but because the noise must have had to be particularly striking. Has anyone tried to replicate it under similar conditions?

I suppose it depends whether you mean 'replicate' as in 'demonstrate it using some means other then mediumship' or find a medium who is able to demonstrate the phenomena.

Many phenomena demonstrated by mediums can be replicated given enough leeway as evinced by the Wiseman demonstrations. That doesn't of course mean that there are not genuine examples of it. The difficulty these days seems to be finding mediums that are capable and willing to demonstrate much of anything other than clairvoyance.

No, rather more prosaically I meant tapping an apple on the floor and seeing if it (a) creeps people out, (b) sounds pathetic or (c) goes splat.

lol to what end? :)

Well, to find out if it's plausible one could produce an eerie "rap". It wouldn't convince anyone who's since made up their mind, of course, but, then - on both sides - I think it's old enough that nothing would.

A lot of Rogerson's reviews are like this -- he's basically a psycho-socialist. This is a point of view to which I have some sympathy -- but which I think can be as self-fulfilling and circular as any other belief system. See his review of Tony Cornell's book for some very interesting, circular arguments.

I'm also a little mystified by his claim that any 'theory also has to explain, at least as well, and preferably better, all known, normal phenomena as well.' Most explanations of 'normal' phenomena don't have anything like this explanatory reach. I do find it facsinating how no-one seems to agree on exactly what one needs to do to make a claim 'scientific!' could it be that most of our standards for judgment are... LARGELY ARBITRARY???! ;-)

I have just re-visited David Fontana's account of his personal experience of the Casrdiff poltergeist (Is There An Afterlife?,O Books 2005, pp 64-74) and it is interesting that he expresses his dismay that it could not be tested scientifically, only able to rely on his own observation and logical elimination of the possible cause!

I was under the impression that observation was a fundamental part of science.

I see Rogerson has responded to your response here of his book review of 'Randi's Prize' at his blog http://pelicanist.blogspot.com/2011/01/ne-111.html

Apparently Robert you are guilty of the argument from snobbery. Okkkaaay.

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