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White Coats and Magic Mushrooms

The latest John Hopkins study on psilocybin has been getting a lot of favourable attention in the international press. Eighteen volunteers were given one session a month for five months, and almost all reported it to be either their most spiritually significant experience ever or in the top five. They also reported positive changes in their behaviours, such as improved relationships with family and others, increased physical and psychological self-care, and increased devotion to spiritual practice - claims that were objectively corroborated.

The study worked not with magic mushrooms but with pure psilocybin, so it was able to establish the ideal dose to get positive effects, and at what point anxiety starts to kick in. In all the studies to date, 100 volunteers have been given some 210 sessions, almost all with positive results.

The study's lead scientist, Roland Griffiths, Ph.D., a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and neuroscience, said: 'We wanted to take a methodical look at how its effects change with dosage. We seem to have found levels of the substance and particular conditions for its use that give a high probability of a profound and beneficial experience, a low enough probability of psychological struggle, and very little risk of any actual harm.'

All very good. Question: what use is going to be made of this information?

If it had been around when I was popping acid and mescaline in the early 1970s I could have saved myself some quite tense moments. You know, the ones that come on three hours after you've gone back to double the dose because nothing seemed to be happening, when you're clinging to your sanity by your fingernails.

The best way to avoid a bad trip, I hear someone say, is not to take a trip at all. Yes indeed. But what a miserable philosophy of life.

I guess the real purpose of the Hopkins research is to try to overcome policymakers' prejudice against the recreational or even therapeutic use of entheogenic substances. This encouraging quote from former US drug czar Dr. Jerome Jaffe is being widely quoted:

The Hopkins psilocybin studies clearly demonstrate that this route to the mystical is not to be walked alone. But they have also demonstrated significant and lasting benefits. That raises two questions: could psilocybin-occasioned experiences prove therapeutically useful, for example in dealing with the psychological distress experienced by some terminal patients?

And should properly-informed citizens, not in distress, be allowed to receive psilocybin for its possible spiritual benefits, as we now allow them to pursue other possibly risky activities such as cosmetic surgery and mountain-climbing?

Well, yes... In a sane world, a substance that can help turn a person into a healthy, fully functional member of society has got to be a good thing. And if scientific trials can establish the safe dose, a serious obstacle has been removed.

But the world is anything but sane, and if this helps to start a serious discussion about lifting the ban on psychedelics then you can bet there'll be all kinds of objections. I can anticipate the infuriating 'sending out the wrong signals' argument, but I wonder what other forms the opposition will take.

Perhaps the rigour of the science will be questioned. One distinctly sceptical comment, the only one I've found so far (in an admittedly quite incomplete search) complains that the study was not properly blind because of the degree of interaction between the researchers and subjects before, during and after the experiments.

When the University of Maryland Medical Center in Baltimore, and other well-known facilities, are engaged in research demonstrating that sustained, thoughtful contact between doctor and patient demonstrably produces favorable outcomes, it seems a pity that the researchers in this particular study chose to ignore the ways in which their behavior may or may not have influenced the subjective experience of the study's participants, and the directly observable effects that the active substance and placebo had on same.

What I think this means is that positive life changes might be attributed not to the substance but the human contact. It seems daft to me, but then I have first-hand knowledge of these sorts of things. It must seem rather mysterious to the uninitiated, who are not about to take the word of mere scientists on such matters. Any more than sceptics do on the subject of the near-death experience, where the transformative effects of nearly dying can be just as profound.

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"What I think this means is that positive life changes might be attributed not to the substance but the human contact. It seems daft to me..."

Wow. The convoluted lengths some sceptics will go to.
If contact with these researchers alone can produce such beneficial results in a persons life, they sure are missing their calling, LOL.

Nice post, Robert!

I'm just down the road from Baltimore -- wish I'd known about this!

Robert, thanks for taking a stand in this controversial area. Like yourself, I too am no stranger to these things. And based on my own Iife story, I doubt that anything could have a more positive impact on the health of this planet than for each of its inhabitants to have a first-hand experience of our spiritual nature and connectedness.

And those folks at John Hopkins got to do it monthly! So nice that these experiments are being conducted at such a prestigious institution. It gets harder and harder to dismiss claims about the potential benefits of these substances as the ravings of a few ex-hippies.

Ok, bring on the psi studies using hallucinogens!


"sustained, thoughtful contact between doctor and patient demonstrably produces favorable outcomes...." - skeptical commenter

LOL I am a "child of the sixties". Ihad the privilege of doing LSD on a number of occasions from age 19-23. Those experiences literally changed the template of my Being. The "Reality Tunnel" of everyday life became paraphrasing William James our "normal waking consciousness" is but one slice of a vast number of alternative altered states of consciousness separated by only the "filmiest of screens" from "normal waking consciousness". If James experienced this using nitrogenous oxide than one can only imagine the spectacular effects of psylocybin mushrooms taken by Aldous Huxley on his deathbed. That's the kind of Hospice that I would gladly volunteer working for upon my retirement.
I would give might right hand to have another shot of LSD or the chance to "blast through DMT" into other realities of the One Divine Imagination and It's infinite creations.

I am deeply curious about how an LSD might manifest in me now that I'm 62. I would love to revisit some of those Archetypal Realms and "divine shimmering within mundane objects" states as well as the painful repressed shadow material lurking just below everyday egoic experience.

Of course these are not party drugs! I see them as sacred or better yet "Gnostic Sacraments". The Mystery Schools of the Ancient world clearly used some type of hallucination potion as the fulminating experience for it's Graduates (can anyone say Plato?).

The famous Harvard Easter study described by Huston Smith is a must read. This took place in the early 1960's before LSD "caught on" and was still legal.

At 47 years old I still use LSD maybe once a year (I secured a batch of it many years ago and have found no loss of potency given my storage methods) and psilocybe mushrooms (which grow naturally on my property; especially with a little coaxing:-) once or twice a year; though there have been years when I have been extremely busy and tired and have skipped use all together. The event of ingesting these things is, for me, a sacred spritual revival ritual that has helped sustain my well being for over 25 years.

I found that as I age, the experiences are more focussed, meaningful and generally more useful than when I was younger.

So, LSD at 62? I sure hope so. Why not?

That being said, I do my best to live a healthy life; an outlook that I sometimes - ok, maybe often - fail to live up to, but one which includes a simple diet, plenty of strenuous and varied exercise for the physical body and meditation, thoughtful and honest self evaluation (comparison of thoughts and actions to ideals with a goal of non-descepancy) for the mind/soul. I think these activities help to ensure that the trips are mostly joyous and deep.

I am very happy to see John Hopkins put its weighty stamp of approval on the pratice of using these things for positive personal development.

"Well, yes... In a sane world, a substance that can help turn a person into a healthy, fully functional member of society has got to be a good thing."


I agree that if the drug has beneficial effects it should be available to people to use. However I think it is important to point out that this does not mean that drug can help with mental illness in a specific way. It may have no effect on mental illness at all. If someone who is depressed or has schizophrenia uses the drug they may exhibit all the behaviors of the test subjects...

"reported it to be either their most spiritually significant experience ever or in the top five. They also reported positive changes in their behaviours, such as improved relationships with family and others, increased physical and psychological self-care, and increased devotion to spiritual practice - claims that were objectively corroborated."


... but they might still be depressed or schizophrenic even though they used the drug.


Also, the question most interesting to me is: does the drug provide any way to test the truth of our spiritual nature? Our scientific establishment is well organized to test the psychological effects of the drug. But I wonder if it will be permitted to use the drug in parapsychological experiments.

'it is important to point out that this does not mean that drug can help with mental illness in a specific way. It may have no effect on mental illness at all.'

Quite so. I seem to remember that Stanslav Grof used LSD in a therapeutic context, but I agree this approach would have to be used with extreme caution. But it's interesting to speculate on what stage our society would have to reach for it to be allowed at all.

'I wonder if it will be permitted to use the drug in parapsychological experiments.'

That's a tough one! The people who make decisions about what trials to allow would have to be the sort of people who don't think that investigating telepathy and suchlike is a waste of valuable taxpayers money and an affront to science. One sceptic on the panel, and it's dished.

"I would give my right hand to have another shot of LSD or the chance to "blast through DMT" into other realities of the One Divine Imagination and It's infinite creations."

Great to hear what you have to say, as always, Rick. You too, no one!

So Rick, what's holding you back from "another shot" at it?

'At 47 years old I still use LSD maybe once a year' - Wow! Great! I left it behind in my past, perhaps like Rick. Truth is, my experiences - which were not that many - were not always exactly enjoyable, so it's not something I necessarily hanker after.

What never left me is that sense of a luminous deepness to reality, some vast new spiritual space waiting to be explored. At the time I just wasn't emotionally together enough not to be scared by it. But at least the memory of it means that when I read about spiritual or mystical experience, in all its manifestations, I can relate to it. I can expand on that knowledge in my reading.

Thinking a lot about sceptical attitudes, as I do, I wonder how people with a strongly atheist/rationalist bent react to entheogens. I've never come across a sceptic who had a full-blown near-death experience and remained a sceptic. By the same token, can someone who sees God/ultimate reality, or whatever, in an LSD trip, go on ridiculing 'believers' for 'wishful thinking'? Maybe, but I just doubt it.


"So Rick, what's holding you back from "another shot" at it?"

Well Bruce quite frankly it's access. I am a licensed psychologist living in rural Pennsylvania, albeit a University town, but it is illegal and I have withdrawn many of my personal and social contacts living a quiet life focused on my work with my patients,my family,contemplation of nature and meditation. I have no colleagues in my field in this area who might partner a trip (no pun intended)to a place where it would not be a legal problem or who might privately help me acquire it. In the old days it was like "hey man, I've got some Owsley acid" or when I lived in the Netherlands in the early 70's it was prolific. Also set and setting is very important and I would want to do it with an experienced psychonau within the context of a reverential, sacred setting and proper psycho-physical preparation.

Something about ayahuasca and peyote tourism to third world countries is off putting for me. Maybe originally, 30 years ago and it still possible to find relatively uncontaminated shamanistic societies who were not yet exposed to western "give me an experience" tourists and narcissistic New Agers with more ego than depth, it might have been possible.

Got any ideas Bruce?

Susan Blackmore is an atheist who has dabbled in LSD and other psychedelics. She certainly doesn't entertain any spiritual notions about her experiences. It's impossible to know, however, if her public pronouncements match her actual introspections when tripping. I for one, am interested in the whole area, especially as the evidence from psychedelics seems to point to the filter rather production model of consciousness. It sounds rather frightening abandoning the ego though. :-)


Of course it's frightening when one experiences the loss or potential loss of the ego.It feels exactly like dying and the same primal fear of clinging to life creates a sense of "oh shit, now I can't changeor undo what I just did and I'm going to have to deal with this for at least the next 6-8 hours". There's a frightening sense of loss of control and a free floating oceanic surrender to a larger reality that completely overwhelms my "stupid illusion that my ego was ever really in control" over these vast, tides of alien, yet familiar, Forces of Nature that do not lie behind what we call "ordinary consensual waking reality" but actually control our tiny, infinitesimal drop of human consensus reality floating in an infinite ocean of Inner Subjectivity that manifests in unimaginable Archetypal Forces Some of the experienced forces seem recognizable and related to our tiny drop of reality and others are alien and indescribable outside our experiences to conceptualize them. Yet, there they are, uncontrollably arising in beauty and strangeness beyond anything imaginable to our brain that seems to filter down Mind at Large so that consciousness could evolve and survive in this tiny reality droplet's rule set Universe that created our tiny planet in which the biosphere evolved to a point that Mind could arise in a creature in a certain way that this creature would have the holographic capacity able to explore Infinite Potentials and States of Mind at Large within it's own subjective experience.

Conversely, Blake's statement that the universe can be seen in a tiny grain of sand can manifest just as suddenly. Like a roller coaster experience that suddenly dips on a sharp downward oscillation ,by then I've forgotten the 'story of Rick' and surrendered to being just Awareness experiencing the play of infinite creative imagination illuminating the coffee cup on my table with a divine essence or the absolute wonder of the small floating motes of dust dancing through my kitchen window as the morning sun arises.

I don't give a shit if Blackamore is an atheist, talmudic scholar, jihadist, spiritual seeker, or scientific materialist. The word "spiritual" is so saturated with meaning as to become meaningless. Even the concept of God or no God is irrelevant when one enters Transcendent Realities. There is simply nothing to say when directly encountering the
divine Imagination.

As a psychologist who spent over 17 of my 30 years in inpatient settings working with thousands of schizophrenics, illusions, delusions, and auditory and visual hallucinations, these Altered States are NOT brain pathology and cannot be found anywhere in the DSM-IV-R, the diagnostic bible of psychiatry. I can say with certainty that Consciousness and it's creative potentialities contained in the holographic experience of my own subjective Experience with LSD is not even close to being understood.

rick49, acknowledge all you describe re; fears/terror related to the experiences. These are real and should be understood by all who wish to travel there and I have experienced them myself; though, as stated previously, much diminished in recent years, I still have a sense of trepidation when drinking a tea or placing under the tongue.

As a degreed professional myself, working in corperate America, I often find myself having my ego inflated, deflated, and warped in the daily b.s. and my energies stunted by the same; despite all efforts and personal promises to rise above or prevent. This is when I decline the trip and opt for sober methods of rejuvination. Only after achieving an improved sense of balance do I ingest. This helps mitigate some of the potential downside.

That said, one day a few years ago I felt the dread and rather than trying to cope with it - to cling to my sanity - I just let go; totally. The result was amazing; purely exhilerating.

The impetus to do so was related to the death of someone I mostly knew professionally only, yet, by mutual understanding could have been much personally closer to, but for circumstances. We agreed to not go where we both would have liked to, repressed those expressions instinct demanded and carried on with our lives (yeah, it was that strong a mutual attraction).

She was a stunningly attractive woman and she had a wild and free spirit as well as an active intelligent mind. She ran marathons as a hobby, but had many other interests as well. She was one of a kind. She was a few years younger than I; in her mid - late 30's.

Then one day she was wasn't feeling well and was soon diagnosed with an agressive cancer. Shortly after that - maybe five months or so later - she died. I saw her a month or so before she passed over. She was a wasted physical wreck. I almost couldn't recognize her at first. Her spritit was still strong and she was fighting, but it obvious she was losing - and she knew it - the battle to cling to this earthly plane.

Then she was gone. Simply gone. And I found myself looking for her everywhere she used to be. None of those places were the same anymore. All the same, people are doing what they do in those places and her name is never mentioned by any of them. Sometimes I wonder if she was just a fine dream I had. I remember distictly a radiance; really more of an electric halo. The contours of her face are now beginning to elude me.

I had a buddy KIA, a parent killed in an acident when I was relatively young and grandparents deceased due to natural causes, but none of these had the same impact on my psyche. That this bright beautiful shining light embodied in a virtually perfectly formed woman could be darkened so quickly and so horribly and at so young an age and with such finallity some how flipped a switch in my own thinking.

And I was getting older.

It's hard to nail down exactly what my thought processes were when I decided to abandon fear and just let the trip take me away without reservation. It had something to do with the true realization of utter futility of clinging to my body and the little bitter-sweet life I'd created here on earth.

And this illustrates why I think psychedelics are only useful for those who are willing to do fundemental development work in their sober hours (not that I am some sort of know it all cosmic guru - I'm certainly not).

Psychedelics can open doors. You can go through them when you're high. Better still is to remember the possibilities and integrate that into your daily life. There is potential for a positive feedback loop. Drug shows potential, sober person integrates potential and develops in daily life, grows internally (spiritually/psychologically) and takes drug again, real internal development is magnified under drug influence and now next level of potential is revealed and so on and so forth.

Yet there are many who fall by the wayside on the infinte jouney. Our culture is designed to be a barrier at every step of the way and many succumb to the barriers; sooner or later. Another barrier is the individual's character. I am convinced that very few are psychologically willing and able to embark on a continuous adventure into uncharted territory. There is nothing wrong with this IMO. When it's time to comfortably settle down, it's time. Unless settling down makes one unhappy; then it's time to muster courage and move on.

Based on what I've read, I think Susan Blackmore was an unprepared undisciplined dillitante, got scared and reinvented herself in way that was acceptable to her wounded pride.


There are a lot of folks like Susan "experimenting" with psychedelics. With any powerful tool, if used by a fool, bad things can happen. Chainsaws, automobiles, antibiotics, religion and even guns have very beneficial potential in the right hands. Yet hospitals and morgues are full of the results of misuse.

A free society cannot restrict the options by which fools inflict their inevitible self harm if doing also restricts the options by which sounder minds enhance their experience of life and their inspiration to contribute positively back to society.


no one,

You speak to what is at the heart of my personal spiritual journey and is at the heart of my psychotherapy with my patients

Letting go or Surrendering to the impermanence of all that takes various inner and outer form, including ourselves, when the vicissitudes of life inevitably arise as day by day, year to year, decade to decade, is a a life practice.

When the spectrum of losses inevitably occur ranging from loss of our youth, certain dreams or fantasies about how we envisioned our lives would be as opposed to how life really turns out, deaths, failures, rejections, crises in family members or within ourselves, the "wise man" faces the pain, surrenders to grief, and emotionally experiences the laws of impermanence and continues to move through life. This is a life practice, one's dharma. Many of my patients are scared when I tell them that I have both good news and bad news regarding what they are presenting to me in the therapy room.

First the bad news, "you are the only one responsible for how you live your life and your journey is ultimately your own and no person,nice thing,good job,high status,amount money or anything else will in themselves bring Wisdom and Wholeness. However, I say, if you trust the process of letting go, face it and feel it purely without attaching some type of mental narrative or create suffering through addictive and compulsive behaviors as an effort to avoid feeling "real pain", than "you are the only one responsible for how you live your life" becomes the good news. It becomes the call to liberation, spaciousness and deep respect for Beint and contentment.

no one I resonate with this life path and describe it as we first must become someone(the individuated ego is a necessary condition to reach) before we can practice through what I call the alchemy of life, the life journey of slowly but surely shedding the egoic, deeply conditioned and reacting predictably response to life, and surrendering from the heart (emotional learning) by seeing these crises, losses etc as providing the crucible for richer, deeper,transmutations of conventional knowledge and experiences and transmuting them into the gold of real Wisdom. This is a life practice deeply embedded in the Death and Resurrection Archetype. We experience many opportunities for allowing the ego to die if we mindfully practice surrendering to "what is".

I say this because I had an earlier post in which I said that my LSD experiences were in my younger years. losing my not yet fully individuated ego was terrifying, often like taking a "rocket ship to the hell realm of my own shadow self lurking below". My ego "container" was of course not strong enough to carry this alone and the very real feeling that losing one's ego is akin to death can be terrifying without a wise guide and a sacred set and setting.

Four decade later, having individuated and to a great degree practiced individuation through the innumerable large and small "crucible events" in my life, I would once again like to experience that rocket ride into altered States. The actual experiences of surrendering or losing control of my ego, I suspect would be less terrifying and although the beautiful, wondrous, hellish and cosmic experiences themselves would probably not be different. But my panic of "oh shit I have no control over what will happen over the next 6-8 hours" would, I hope be recognized, seen through, and released much more quickly for me now.


I have fibbed a bit regarding my hallucinogen intake past. Several years ago I took several smal doses of Salvia Divinorum, which was legal in my state until last week, and experienced a 20 minute mild trip while listening to some Indian Bakhti Rhythms on my headphones. I did lose my sense of the "Ego Story of Rick" without fear or trepidation and experience a mild blissful synthesasia of of not only hearing the music but seeing it appear visually. Okay, fine. It was life changing and probably no more blissful than a glass of wine with a beautiful young woman...not so bad for a 62 year old guy.

no one I express my condolences at your latest "crucible experience" through the loss of your fond colleague.

LSD is not a shortcut to Wisdom. It is however a powerful template changer that opens up and exposes other Realities and once a person experiences that life is never seen or felt quite the same.

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Edit regarding my Salvia trip. It was NOT life changing

rick49, I saw that salvia divinorum was legally sold (I think it still might be) here in NY. I considered trying it. So I did some research online. Also, I too live in a college town. I over heard some college guys talking about it when I was out having a beer and joined their conversation and asked some questions (once I was able to convince them I wasn't a cop ;-). The info I gathered on the plant convinced me that it doesn't produce experiences that are useful like LSD and psilocybin. Seems like it is a different animal. I never went ahead and tasted it.

Thanks for your kind words.

I had never quite realized the explanation for the abatement of "the terror" in the form you offered. I think you are 100% correct re; not yet individuated versus fully individuated and tested ego. So thanks for that resonate input as well.

Funny, because I have entertained the thought that schizophrenia, which typically first manifests at that age when the young adult is attempting to form a viable ego, is the result not of a chemical imbalance (in most cases), but of a psychological retreat from the process of healthy ego formation born of fear. My son is in the Army and he tells me that at jump school (paratroopers) there is some small % of candidates that, after all the training building up to an actual jump from an airplane, just won't take the final step out of the plane. They go to pieces and they fail to earn their jump wings. There are some students that are ready and eager, others that are afraid, but follow through because their peers are doing it and others still that require a friendly push from the sergeant and after that first time are ok, but a minority of others that just won't do it by any means of persuasion. I think the latter could be a metaphor for the onset of schizophrenia. And this would conform to what you have said regarding personal development; albeit in an overly simplistic fashion.

I am hoping the JH study will help lead to situations where healthy, intelligent and responsible older adults can legally gather to ingest these substances in purposefully designed condusive ritualistic set and setting; maybe something like psychedelic spas.

Given my station in life I have no one (ha! just myself) to share my interest in these things. I cannot speak of them in my community or with my peers. A retreat with like minded individuals gathered for similar purpose would be, I think, a wonderful experience.



"A retreat with like minded individuals gathered for similar purpose would be, I think, a wonderful experience."

Years ago, I had the good fortune to take ayahuasca in a circle of supportive, spiritually-oriented people, and it was one of the key events of my life. I can't put into words what I experienced (though I've often tried). In fact, that in itself was one of the main lessons: never again to take words so seriously.

You know how a psychedelic journey often picks up from where the last one left off?

Well, this one took me back to my only prior trip, which happened in radically--and sadly--different circumstances. That was in about 1970, when some friends asked if I wanted to try LSD. I had no idea what it was, not the faintest idea what it or any other drug could do. At that point, I had never even smoked pot!

The 1970 trip was ecstatic at first, then hellish. At the time, I had no one to talk with about these things, and had not the slightest way of making sense of my experience. No context at all, either spiritual, psychological, or scientific.

So, for the next 25 years, it remained inside me as an undigested mass, though subconsciously, the event paved the way for later growth. What I experienced during that first LSD trip showed me that love is real, more powerful than we know, and that it somehow survives inside me despite all evidence to the contrary.

By the time I took ayahuasca, I had laid the groundwork for it. Emotionally and intellectually, I was in a far different place, and this time, rather than threaten my worldview, the journey served to confirm everything I had been reading and learning about it. And this time around, I had people to share my experience with!

What a difference that made.

Anyway--I too feel sad that we live in a society that is largely ignorant and judgmental about these medicines, these tools for getting in touch with our feelings and spirituality.

Rick, I know you're not enthusiastic about psychedelic tourism, but there is someone who, when I read his materials a year or so ago, struck me as having some integrity and depth. His name is Hamilton Souther.

http://www.bluemorphotours.com/

"Given my station in life I have no one (ha! just myself) to share my interest in these things. I cannot speak of them in my community or with my peers. A retreat with like minded individuals gathered for similar purpose would be, I think, a wonderful experience." quote from no one.

Yes I too long for a retreat with like minded people. It's tough not to have a community and I guess in some fashion I have come to terms with "it's a lonely place" when few others can understand, comprehend or care about the psycho-spiritual spiral staircase journey of an unfolding soul.

I find the internet quite helpful but unless you and I, RobertMcCluhan or Bruce Siegel and others actually arranged such a retreat, which seems improbable given schedules, geography etc, it won't happen. Thanks for giving voice to my own deep wish. I do have a few patients where such a sacred space of mutual understanding occurs but as a psychotherapist I must be vigilant regarding the boundaries around the fact that I am there for the the patient's growth and although I learn from them and often feel an expansiveness after a session, it must not become about the patient fulfilling my psycho- spiritual growth needs. What I receive from the interaction occurs because of the mutual nature of our work but I must maintain a mindful awareness of "Who am I here for?".

Bruce...Thanks for the Blue Morpho link. I have seen this site before and actually considered it several years ago.

Rick


Bruce- I failed to acknowledge your reference to Hamilton Souther. I did look him up on the Blue Morpho site and resonate with your perceptions.

Also regarding your comments regarding Salvia Divinorum, I believe in higher doses it can be quite useful.
There is a worthwhile book by J. D. Arthur titled "Salvia Divinorum:Doorways To Thought-Free Awareness". I invite you to explore it on Amazon.

Hey Robert, just a quick note,
Your boy Wiseman is bothering us over here in the States. Something about not being able to find a U.S. publisher for his epic masterpiece 'Paranormality'.

Seems that there's some Grand Conspiracy to protect us superstitious inbred hayseeds from discovering his Truth.

I'd just as soon have ya'll keep him on your side of the pond, as we got more important things to worry about over here, like what the hell we're gonna do with Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
Come to think of it, maybe we do need to invite Wiseman's prissy little smoke and mirror a*s over here :-)

Anyway, gotta get back to my dinner now - baked 'possum served fresh on my favorite shiny Chevy hubcap...

http://www.dailygrail.com/Skepticism/2011/7/Back-Paranormality

RabbitDawg, your irreverence towards those fine European gentlemen is shocking.

Don't pay him any mind, Robert. The Dawg's brain was probably scrambled by some fireworks he set off last night.

:o)

Shhh! Let's not confuse 'em Bruce. Right now, they're happy thinking of Independence Day as some movie starring Will Smith :-)

No I know Independence Day, that's when you guys blow off fireworks and eat baked possum, right?

I'll look into this Wiseman thing. He did mention it to me a while ago, and talked about self publishing in the US, but that means POD, which as I pointed out is expensive. Randi's Prize is $19.99 on Amazon US, the cheapest I could make it - compared with £6 or £7 here in the UK - and I still only get to keep about $1 !

Still, as someone on TDG mentioned, he might have got Prometheus to put it out. Or do those guys think they've done enough...

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